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11:24:39 <wolfboy222> no idea
11:24:58 <wolfboy222> oops, wrong window
11:26:30 <dseomn> wolfboy222, others: don't forget to come to the meeting tonight (6pm, Shapiro CC 315)
11:28:27 <dseomn> also, if you want your key signed, bring good ID (not from Brandeis), your fingerprint, and a list of email addresses on the key
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17:03:12 <wolfboy222> dseomn: what key signing are you talking about?
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19:37:33 *** zx2c4 (n=zx2c4@jad.dorm.brandeis.edu) has joined #brancog
19:37:36 <zx2c4> hey
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19:38:25 <zx2c4> yoyo
19:38:55 <sep1318> hey
19:39:00 <zx2c4> who is this?
19:39:04 <zx2c4> who is sep1318
19:39:10 <zx2c4> i dont really know any IRC eddicate
19:39:13 <zx2c4> this is jason
19:39:18 <sep1318> this is steve
19:39:18 <zx2c4> the new kid who was just at the meeting
19:39:21 <zx2c4> Steve...
19:39:23 <zx2c4> which one were u
19:39:27 <sep1318> i was in the corner next to baumgold
19:39:36 <zx2c4> baumgold...
19:39:37 <zx2c4> uhhh
19:39:38 <zx2c4> hmm
19:39:39 <zx2c4> *shrug*
19:39:49 <sep1318> the david with the d20 necklace
19:40:01 <zx2c4> hmmmm
19:40:04 <zx2c4> o well
19:40:21 <sep1318> hehe
19:40:45 * zx2c4 test
19:40:50 * zx2c4 finds irc pretty cool
19:40:57 <sep1318> yay!
19:40:58 * zx2c4 used to use it back in the day, but havnt for years
19:41:07 <zx2c4> test
19:41:09 <zx2c4> hmm
19:41:12 <sep1318> hmm?
19:41:33 <zx2c4> who was the blonde kid?
19:41:35 <zx2c4> blond kid*
19:41:37 <zx2c4> the kubuntu dev
19:41:43 <zx2c4> Euri or something?
19:42:12 <sep1318> yuriy
19:42:23 <zx2c4> u a programmer?
19:42:29 <yuriy> zx2c4: it's "etiquette" and part of it is not sending millions of 1 word messages ;)
19:43:24 <sep1318> yeah, in that one of my two majors is cs.
19:43:33 <zx2c4> aaaaa so evidently spelling is part of etiquette too
19:43:42 <sep1318> it does help.
19:43:45 <zx2c4> i'm used to aim, were the style and "personality" of hte mssages is shown thrugh the rate
19:43:49 <zx2c4> through*
19:44:55 * sep1318 still finds spelling and coherency a good idea, even in digital chats.
19:45:30 <zx2c4> how do i get off the log?
19:45:36 <zx2c4> [like this?]
19:46:57 <zx2c4> anyone interested in developing a distributed decentralized filesharing utility
19:47:59 * yuriy mildly interested
19:48:04 <yuriy> zx2c4: which one were you?
19:48:10 <zx2c4> the new kid
19:48:13 <zx2c4> gentoo user
19:48:27 <zx2c4> it'd be in C++/Qt4
19:48:49 <zx2c4> No central server-- searches and file transfers and peer discovery would all be done via multicast
19:48:57 <zx2c4> and similar little tricks
19:50:16 <sep1318> maybe i'm just being stupid, but this is different from p2p/bt how?
19:50:33 <zx2c4> it wouldn't require a central server at all
19:50:45 <zx2c4> you start up the program, and it finds the other users using it in the network
19:51:04 <zx2c4> then, you can connect manually to someone outside of your network, and then this would give you access to that persons network
19:51:07 <zx2c4> and so on and so forth
19:51:29 <yuriy> zx2c4: don't really see how that's different from bt but i don't know much about how bt works
19:51:39 <zx2c4> multiple webs coming together everytime someone makes an internetwork connection
19:51:42 <zx2c4> BT?
19:51:44 <zx2c4> bittorrent?
19:51:46 <yuriy> but for starters sounds like you're already confusing protocol and interface
19:51:49 <yuriy> yes, bittorrent
19:51:58 <zx2c4> well,
19:52:13 <zx2c4> "BT" requires trackers and websites to distribute torrent files etc
19:52:21 <zx2c4> it requires work to share a file
19:52:36 <zx2c4> and i'm only talking about protocol:
19:53:00 <zx2c4> you can think of it as similar to mDNS ... like what's used in iTunes media sharing
19:53:05 <zx2c4> except that it's less limited
19:53:28 <zx2c4> sort of like dtella, but mcuh more powerful
19:55:00 <yuriy> i meant, because you're talking about qt4
19:55:14 <yuriy> nothing against a qt4 client of course, but just make sure it is just a client
19:55:49 <zx2c4> oh... well of course the protocol would be available in any implementation
19:56:02 <zx2c4> but im just saying for actutually writing it... writing hte first implementation, that is, i'dl ike to use c++/qt4
19:56:14 <yuriy> ok
19:56:47 <yuriy> well tbh i'm not too interested in the project, but i could help you write a GUI if you get there
19:57:10 <zx2c4> alright--
19:57:13 <zx2c4> what sort of work do you do?
19:57:21 <zx2c4> what sorts of stuff do you like to program?
19:58:01 <yuriy> i like to program qt4 guis :P
19:58:06 <yuriy> but i don't actually do much of anything
19:58:11 <zx2c4> aaa
19:58:15 <zx2c4> Designer
19:58:15 <zx2c4> or
19:58:17 <zx2c4> handcoded
19:58:33 <zx2c4> (sorry about the multi line messages... im not used to it)
19:59:24 <sep1318> yuriy: any tips on me learning qt4? should i try the python bindings, or learn c++ and use those?
19:59:51 <zx2c4> what languages do you already know?
20:00:29 <yuriy> zx2c4: i prefer to handcode things. designer just feels weird to me
20:00:37 <yuriy> zx2c4: c++, python, java
20:00:48 <yuriy> sep1318: go with python, it makes things really easy
20:00:59 <zx2c4> i meant that languages question to sep1318
20:01:15 <yuriy> sep1318: or qtjambi
20:01:17 <yuriy> (java)
20:01:34 <zx2c4> learn C++/qt4 by learning qt4 nativly
20:01:39 <zx2c4> http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Prentice-Source-Software-Development/dp/0132354160
20:01:50 <sep1318> zx2c4: python, java, a little c...
20:01:52 <zx2c4> that book has a great appendex in the back titled C++ for Java/C# programmers
20:01:57 <yuriy> depends on what your goals are of course
20:02:15 <yuriy> if you want to whip up a simple GUI for something, python's fine
20:02:35 <yuriy> if you want to also learn C++ and/or do bigger projects, do C++
20:02:38 <zx2c4> to really *know* qt4, u gatta know it with C++... the bindings and jambi and whatnot are good once u alreayd know it to "whip things up" but to really learn qt4 inside out, u gatta know c++
20:02:46 <yuriy> the latter would be more productive for you overall
20:03:26 <sep1318> yeah. i just have this existential quantry about wanting to write gui stuffs, and that the *buntu's like python, but kde likes c++
20:04:07 <yuriy> sep1318: they like python because they are more concerned about getting things done quickly
20:04:22 <yuriy> if nothing else, C++ will be more useful because you are learning yet another language
20:04:29 <zx2c4> what u guys think of .net/mono/C#?
20:04:57 <sep1318> truetrue, yuriy
20:05:04 <yuriy> don't know it, don't care to learn it unless i need it for a job
20:05:30 <sep1318> zx2c4: yeah, .net have this stink of microsoft in my head, if not reality
20:05:38 <sep1318> has the*
20:06:19 <zx2c4> yea... thats how i feel too, but
20:06:23 <zx2c4> C# is really nice and fast
20:06:39 <zx2c4> all the power and scalability of C++ with the ease of Java
20:06:48 <zx2c4> It does all things java does wrong, right
20:06:54 <zx2c4> but.... it's microsoft :-\
20:09:01 <sep1318> its amazing how polarized i've gotten after only a little over a year of using linux
20:09:14 <zx2c4> in support of linux/foss, you mean?
20:09:17 <sep1318> yeah
20:09:32 <sep1318> the complete level of distain i've grown towards windows
20:09:37 <sep1318> disdain*
20:09:41 <zx2c4> yea there's alot of community rhetoric that gets to you w/o u knowing it
20:09:43 <zx2c4> til it's too late
20:09:45 <sep1318> i mean, i used to think it wasn't that bad
20:09:50 <sep1318> yeah, exactly
20:10:05 <zx2c4> if you set up XP correctly and strip out all the crap and apply the latest security patches,
20:10:06 <zx2c4> it's not that bad
20:10:54 <zx2c4> what distro do you use?
20:12:09 <sep1318> kubuntu
20:12:42 <sep1318> i still have xp taking up half my hdd, but i rarely use it. rarely need to, and its so slow now that its almost unbarable
20:16:39 <sep1318> the last time i booted into it was to play halo over winter break. hehehe.
20:17:01 <zx2c4> why not just run games with wine?
20:17:08 <zx2c4> the performance loss isnt that b ad
20:20:55 <sep1318> it doesn't work with the version of wine i had. i updated through their repo and tried it, since the db said it worked, but i haven't had/made time to make it actually work though. i think there's some tinkering needed or summat, i don't remember.
20:21:26 <sep1318> my starcraft works well in wine, though i haven't brought it out and played in a while.
20:21:27 <zx2c4> which Halo?
20:21:31 <sep1318> the original
20:21:48 <zx2c4> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=2720
20:22:01 <sep1318> halo 2 is rated for vista or something, and three isn't out yet if it ever will be.
20:22:08 <sep1318> yeah.
20:22:13 <zx2c4> "gold"
20:22:26 <sep1318> right
20:22:30 <sep1318> that's why i updated
20:23:08 <sep1318> but it didn't quite work, so i need to fiddle with it.
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20:35:36 <sep1318> <.< >.> well, that pretty much died.
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